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Building a desk of five

Hiring, paying and keeping writers when there is no institution behind you.

Erin Laurier 20 Nov 2025 14 min read
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Where the argument breaks down

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The part nobody budgets for

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Reading it again a year later

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Where the argument breaks down

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Where the argument breaks down

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Founding editor. Writes about independent media, typography, and the business of attention.

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